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problem with sharepoint search
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seth
2008-07-22 00:03:45 UTC
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I have a problem with my sharepoint configuration and can't figure it out.
Because of another internal site running, I changed it to use port 81.

The problem I think is that there are still some items somewhere showing
port 80 which is causing a problem.
I'm getting event 2436 every 5 minutes about the 'search index file on the
search server' saying 'object not found 0x80041201'

I've been looking around under application management and i see the web
application there and it shows both 'sharepoint - 80' and the
administration. problem is, i deleted 'sharepoint - 80' and created
'sharepoint - 81' and the search doesn't show port 81 which is why it's
failing because it isn't running on 80. the sharepoint site itself is
running fine on 81.

still learning sharepoint so not sure where to go from here..
Anja
2008-07-22 07:36:35 UTC
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Hi,
If you still see the web application, it means you have not deleted it,
right?
Check what exactely is running under this web appl on port 80 (usually
defaul IIS site).
What exactely do you mean by 'search doesn't show port 81'??

Have you looked at event ID.net yet?:
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=2436&eventno=8742&source=Windows%20SharePoint%20Services%203%20Search&phase=1

Here some tech net articles how to configure search in WSS 3.0:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc288477.aspx

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc287827.aspx


Cheers,
Anja
Post by seth
I have a problem with my sharepoint configuration and can't figure it out.
Because of another internal site running, I changed it to use port 81.
The problem I think is that there are still some items somewhere showing
port 80 which is causing a problem.
I'm getting event 2436 every 5 minutes about the 'search index file on the
search server' saying 'object not found 0x80041201'
I've been looking around under application management and i see the web
application there and it shows both 'sharepoint - 80' and the
administration. problem is, i deleted 'sharepoint - 80' and created
'sharepoint - 81' and the search doesn't show port 81 which is why it's
failing because it isn't running on 80. the sharepoint site itself is
running fine on 81.
still learning sharepoint so not sure where to go from here..
seth
2008-07-24 16:32:37 UTC
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in iis i have my default site on 80 with defaultapppool and sharepoint on 81
(using integrated windows authentication)

i did look at event id and that error code does not appear
one error code sited is for access denied. i'm not experience that; i'm
getting object not found.

in the event log it shows starting address as just the hostname without :81
so that could be why it says object not found because it isn't running on
80.

in alternate access mappings i have 3 entries. 1 for central admin, one for
default site and one for port 81. the default site is in default zone while
port 81 is in intranet zone. if i try to edit public zone url's and add the
site with port 81 to default, i don't have the option to save. if i try to
change the one on port 81 from intranet to default zone, it tells me the
public intranet zone cannot be deleted, though i clicked ok and not delete.

regarding the technet articles, the second one went into configuring the
search service, but only has account configuration, database, and schedule.
i changed the schedule from every 5 min to do away with the warnings but i
think there is something else still missing.
Post by Anja
Hi,
If you still see the web application, it means you have not deleted it,
right?
Check what exactely is running under this web appl on port 80 (usually
defaul IIS site).
What exactely do you mean by 'search doesn't show port 81'??
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=2436&eventno=8742&source=Windows%20SharePoint%20Services%203%20Search&phase=1
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc288477.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc287827.aspx
Cheers,
Anja
Post by seth
I have a problem with my sharepoint configuration and can't figure it out.
Because of another internal site running, I changed it to use port 81.
The problem I think is that there are still some items somewhere showing
port 80 which is causing a problem.
I'm getting event 2436 every 5 minutes about the 'search index file on
the search server' saying 'object not found 0x80041201'
I've been looking around under application management and i see the web
application there and it shows both 'sharepoint - 80' and the
administration. problem is, i deleted 'sharepoint - 80' and created
'sharepoint - 81' and the search doesn't show port 81 which is why it's
failing because it isn't running on 80. the sharepoint site itself is
running fine on 81.
still learning sharepoint so not sure where to go from here..
Anja
2008-08-12 14:07:38 UTC
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Hi,
What about the accounts under which search is running?
Check folowing:
Windows SharePoint services search account identity in Services.msc
application pool identity settings in IIS for the particular site
policy for web application (if the account that is used for running the app
pool is not listed there, add it with full read access)

If this still does not work, configure new SSP or try to install SP1 which
contains many serach service fixes (for WSS 3.0:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=4191A531-A2E9-45E4-B71E-5B0B17108BD2&displaylang=en)
--
Anja
Post by seth
in iis i have my default site on 80 with defaultapppool and sharepoint on
81 (using integrated windows authentication)
i did look at event id and that error code does not appear
one error code sited is for access denied. i'm not experience that; i'm
getting object not found.
in the event log it shows starting address as just the hostname without
:81 so that could be why it says object not found because it isn't running
on 80.
in alternate access mappings i have 3 entries. 1 for central admin, one
for default site and one for port 81. the default site is in default zone
while port 81 is in intranet zone. if i try to edit public zone url's and
add the site with port 81 to default, i don't have the option to save. if
i try to change the one on port 81 from intranet to default zone, it tells
me the public intranet zone cannot be deleted, though i clicked ok and not
delete.
regarding the technet articles, the second one went into configuring the
search service, but only has account configuration, database, and
schedule. i changed the schedule from every 5 min to do away with the
warnings but i think there is something else still missing.
Post by Anja
Hi,
If you still see the web application, it means you have not deleted it,
right?
Check what exactely is running under this web appl on port 80 (usually
defaul IIS site).
What exactely do you mean by 'search doesn't show port 81'??
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=2436&eventno=8742&source=Windows%20SharePoint%20Services%203%20Search&phase=1
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc288477.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc287827.aspx
Cheers,
Anja
Post by seth
I have a problem with my sharepoint configuration and can't figure it out.
Because of another internal site running, I changed it to use port 81.
The problem I think is that there are still some items somewhere showing
port 80 which is causing a problem.
I'm getting event 2436 every 5 minutes about the 'search index file on
the search server' saying 'object not found 0x80041201'
I've been looking around under application management and i see the web
application there and it shows both 'sharepoint - 80' and the
administration. problem is, i deleted 'sharepoint - 80' and created
'sharepoint - 81' and the search doesn't show port 81 which is why it's
failing because it isn't running on 80. the sharepoint site itself is
running fine on 81.
still learning sharepoint so not sure where to go from here..
Anja
2008-08-13 10:40:59 UTC
Permalink
Sorry,
of course if you have WSS 3.0 you cant have SSP there.
But I would go for the updates and see if they could fix your search
problem.

Anna
Post by Anja
Hi,
What about the accounts under which search is running?
Windows SharePoint services search account identity in Services.msc
application pool identity settings in IIS for the particular site
policy for web application (if the account that is used for running the
app pool is not listed there, add it with full read access)
If this still does not work, configure new SSP or try to install SP1 which
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=4191A531-A2E9-45E4-B71E-5B0B17108BD2&displaylang=en)
--
Anja
Post by seth
in iis i have my default site on 80 with defaultapppool and sharepoint on
81 (using integrated windows authentication)
i did look at event id and that error code does not appear
one error code sited is for access denied. i'm not experience that; i'm
getting object not found.
in the event log it shows starting address as just the hostname without
:81 so that could be why it says object not found because it isn't
running on 80.
in alternate access mappings i have 3 entries. 1 for central admin, one
for default site and one for port 81. the default site is in default
zone while port 81 is in intranet zone. if i try to edit public zone
url's and add the site with port 81 to default, i don't have the option
to save. if i try to change the one on port 81 from intranet to default
zone, it tells me the public intranet zone cannot be deleted, though i
clicked ok and not delete.
regarding the technet articles, the second one went into configuring the
search service, but only has account configuration, database, and
schedule. i changed the schedule from every 5 min to do away with the
warnings but i think there is something else still missing.
Post by Anja
Hi,
If you still see the web application, it means you have not deleted it,
right?
Check what exactely is running under this web appl on port 80 (usually
defaul IIS site).
What exactely do you mean by 'search doesn't show port 81'??
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=2436&eventno=8742&source=Windows%20SharePoint%20Services%203%20Search&phase=1
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc288477.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc287827.aspx
Cheers,
Anja
Post by seth
I have a problem with my sharepoint configuration and can't figure it out.
Because of another internal site running, I changed it to use port 81.
The problem I think is that there are still some items somewhere
showing port 80 which is causing a problem.
I'm getting event 2436 every 5 minutes about the 'search index file on
the search server' saying 'object not found 0x80041201'
I've been looking around under application management and i see the web
application there and it shows both 'sharepoint - 80' and the
administration. problem is, i deleted 'sharepoint - 80' and created
'sharepoint - 81' and the search doesn't show port 81 which is why it's
failing because it isn't running on 80. the sharepoint site itself is
running fine on 81.
still learning sharepoint so not sure where to go from here..
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